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		<title>Dialogue by Being There</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you start a dialogue just by showing up?
Miki Kashtan’s friend did. At a conference on reconciliation, this friend realized with despair that there was no exploration of gay issues on the agenda. On the third day of the conference, after praying and wrestling with the omission, she stepped to the microphone, announced to a [...]]]></description>
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<p><a title="Respected retreat leader in Nonviolent Communication, author of the blog The Fearless Heart" href="http://baynvc.blogspot.com/p/about-miki-kashtan.html">Miki Kashtan</a>’s friend did. At a conference on reconciliation, this friend realized with despair that there was no exploration of gay issues on the agenda. On the third day of the conference, after praying and wrestling with the omission, she stepped to the microphone, announced to a conservative audience that she was gay, and simply made herself available. And people started coming. She didn’t try to change their mind; she just listened. (Miki puts this much more eloquently than I ever could; you’ve <em>got </em>to <a href="http://baynvc.blogspot.com/2010/06/transcending-righteousness.html">read the post</a>.)</p>
<p>In short, Miki’s friend was present, in her attendance and her few words.</p>
<p>This past weekend, I attended the annual <a href="http://www.albanyepiscopaldiocese.org/ministries/convention/index.html">convention</a> of the <a href="http://www.albanyepiscopaldiocese.org/">Episcopal Diocese of Albany</a>. Before us was a contentious resolution that touched tangentially on GLBT issues: the endorsement of a formal covenant for the worldwide <a title="The worldwide denomination of which The Episcopal Church is the U.S. expression" href="http://www.anglicancommunion.org/">Anglican Communion</a>. For several weeks I had studied the issue, solicited opinions, reflected, and prayed; from that work emerged a position that could respect the covenant’s supporters while saying no to the covenant itself. On Saturday, I articulated these thoughts in 90 seconds from the floor of the convention.</p>
<p>In short, I was present, in my attendance and my few words.</p>
<p>And people started coming. One first-time delegate, who had no idea how conservative the diocesan leadership was, expressed relief at finding a kindred spirit. The head of a progressive organization in the diocese thanked me for speaking up. Yet so did the diocese’s conservative firebrand, who generally brooks no nonsense from “liberals.”</p>
<p>Experiences like these leave me with so much hope…and a few lessons. One involves the timeframe of dialogue. I have no illusions that one 90-second speech—or a boatload of 90-second speeches—will change the basic mindset of 400 convention delegates. Neither will they inspire all of us to listen respectfully and dialogue civilly all the time.</p>
<p>But each time we do something like this, we give people a glimpse of the flesh-and-blood on the “other side.” We reveal that we’re human, use logic, and come to our positions in good faith. Then, the next time we do it, our listeners might be a bit more accepting of us, a bit more willing to listen, whether they agree or not.</p>
<p>The other lesson is like unto it. It’s easy to think of dialogue as this intense, formal, sustained effort, with facilitators and flip charts and study circles and such. Those efforts are worthy of applause. But right in the midst of our daily lives, we can move dialogue in seemingly tiny ways, like presenting oneself at a convention.</p>
<p>When we do, people will come.</p>
<p>Have you ever started a dialogue just by showing up? Did simply expressing who you are draw people to you? What happened?  Please share your experiences by clicking on the Comments line below.</p>
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		<title>Surrender Your Values to Dialogue With Others?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do we have to give up our beliefs before we engage in dialogue?
I thought about this when a Religion News Service article led me to the Civility Project. Co-founded by a Democratic consultant and a Southern Baptist adviser to Mitt Romney (that combination alone should get your attention), the project sprang from a frustration with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we have to give up our beliefs before we engage in dialogue?</p>
<p>I thought about this when a <a href="http://www.religionnews.com/index.php?/rnstext/love_your_enemies_civility_advocates_say1/" target="_blank">Religion News Service article</a> led me to the <a href="http://www.civilityproject.org/" target="_blank">Civility Project</a>. Co-founded by a Democratic consultant and a Southern Baptist adviser to Mitt Romney (that combination alone should get your attention), the project sprang from a frustration with the shouting that currently passes for civil discourse. Central to the project is the Civility Pledge: a promise to be civil in public discourse and behavior, respect others regardless of their position, and stand against incivility.</p>
<p>What a great idea. Others have worked on civility for considerably longer and explored it more intently—<a href="http://krieger.jhu.edu/civility/index.html" target="_blank">P. M. Forni’s Civility Initiative</a> at Johns Hopkins is especially notable—but it’s wonderful to see a call for civility from the grass roots. The more, the better.</p>
<p>Two items on the Civility Project website, though, brought the belief question to mind. <a href="http://www.civilityproject.org/?p=16" target="_blank">One page</a> states that the project does not involve “a surrender of personal beliefs, convictions or ideology.” Meanwhile, a poster comments that civil dialogue is impossible until fundamentalists stop preventing civil marriages for <a title="gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender" href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/GLBT" target="_blank">GLBT</a> people. This expresses her personal conviction, and she has made it a precondition for civil dialogue.</p>
<p>Can you actually be civil and <em>not </em>surrender these things?</p>
<p>I think you can—but not by <em>leading </em>with “never surrender.” That orientation almost automatically puts us on the defensive, listening to the other not so much to truly understand her but to find the holes in her thinking. If the other person realizes we’re doing this, she’ll perceive herself as vulnerable to attack. She too becomes defensive, we learn little about each other, and the dialogue has no value.</p>
<p>So how <em>do</em> we go about this? I think the key is not to <em>surrender </em>our beliefs, but to <em>set them aside </em>for purposes of the dialogue. In doing so, we clear our mind to consider the other’s perspective from the inside out. We can hear her logic, her passion, her values more clearly. As a result, we connect more deeply, build trust, and open up an opportunity for deeper dialogue. This gives us a richer understanding of the other perspective, which we can then explore from our own value system. </p>
<p>Imagine if we tried this with, say, gay marriage. GLBT people might find that conservative Christians are not necessarily homophobic, but rather trying in good faith to see the issue from their biblical worldview. Conservative Christians might hear the life stories of gay people and realize that being gay is not a choice, but rather who they are at their very essence. </p>
<p>At the end of the dialogue, conservatives might still conclude that homosexuality is sinful, and GLBT people might still be frustrated with them. But they have understood the opposing perspective more deeply. More important, they have seen the human being behind the perspective, and that can lead to something bigger than dialogue—compassion and peace across the ideological divide.</p>
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